Turkish Airlines confirms all-new 777 business class

The Boeing 777s will be the launchpad for a fully-private bespoke business class suites with direct aisle access.

By David Flynn, July 24 2023
Turkish Airlines confirms all-new 777 business class
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Turkish Airlines’ Boeing 777 business class seat is not a favourite of high flyers.

Although the airline itself enjoys a stellar reputation for service, including meals prepared by the airline’s signature Flying Chefs, the lie-flat seats themselves remain in a dated 2-3-2 layout, which offers great legroom but at the expense of zero privacy plus the dreaded ‘middle seat’.

But that’s set to change, with the Star Alliance member planning to upgrade its 777s to a business class seat offering not only direct aisle access but “full privacy” for every passenger.

Turkish Airlines Chairman Ahmet Bolat revealed those plans to Executive Traveller as he visited Melbourne, one of the two cities vying to be Turkish Airlines’ first Australian destination from December 2023.

While the Australian flights will rely on a Boeing 787-9, which has the same modern business class as its Airbus A350 stablemate, the Boeing 777-300ER remains the long-range workhorse of the Istanbul-based carrier.

Turkish Airlines' new Boeing 777 business class will be an all-new design.
Turkish Airlines' new Boeing 777 business class will be an all-new design.

And not only will the 777s finally get a seat worthy of that flagship status, it will be an all-new design created for and exclusive to Turkish Airlines by the carrier’s Turkish Cabin Interior arm.

“We’re going upgrade our 777s with our own business class seats,” Bolat tells Executive Traveller

“(TCI) produces seats for us and also for the world,” with some models available as standard fit-out through the Boeing catalogue, “(and) we are working on certifying one of the seats for business class on the 777.”

Bespoke business class

However, Bolat indicated the new seat won’t follow the familiar conventional 1-2-1 layout, with the airline aiming to keep its 777 business class cabin in what’s called a ‘high-density’ configuration which maximises the number of premium pews.

“I want to use the full space in the aircraft,” he explained, but “the current seats available in the market reduces our 49 seats to 42 seats” in the 777’s business class cabin. That's the reason we are pushing our own seat.”

“There are not many seat companies in the world, so you are really bound to what they have available,” whereas this bespoke business class creation will be unique to Turkish Airlines.

One model for Turkish Airlines’ new 777 business class seat could be along the same lines as the ‘Apex suite’ flown by the likes of Japan Airlines.

This retains a 2-3-2 layout but with additional spacing between each row, giving passengers seated away from the aisle have a direct path behind or in front of another passenger, without crossing into their personal space.

The layout and passenger flow of Japan Airlines' Apex-based Sky Suite business class.
The layout and passenger flow of Japan Airlines' Apex-based Sky Suite business class.

Designed and manufactured in Turkey, the next-gen 777 business class seat is expected to boast all the mod cons from sliding “full privacy” doors to wireless device charging and super-sized video screens.

While Bolat didn’t detail when the new seats would debut or how long the refit would take across the 33-strong Boeing 777 fleet, he indicated the same business class seat may also appear on Turkish Airlines’ planned ultra-long range fleet of 10-15 Airbus A350ULR or Boeing 777X jets which would eventually connect Istanbul non-stop to the likes of Sydney, Melbourne, Santiago and Bueno Aires.

But those globe-striding flights won’t take wing until the end of this decade at the earliest. “It’s five years if it’s the A350, if it’s the 777 it’ll take seven years to mature,” Bolat predicts.

30 May 2018

Total posts 31

A quite boosting article for what appears to amount to TK adopting something eerily equivalent to BA's dreaded former Club World high density J class (2-3-2), much maligned and now in the process of being pulled-out and upgraded, 23 years after its first generation version appeared.  

Those Apex Suites, if TK do decide to go down that route, are very good, massively better than BA Club World - admittedly, I wouldn't be queuing up to select the middle of the "3" (2-2-2 would be a better config) but still.

QF

11 Jul 2014

Total posts 927

Imagine being able to convert VA points on these flights?

Also a few people are talking about the blocking of Turish Airlines and also Qatar , if those people are so concerned what the federal minister has done by blocking flights they could always make a complaint to the Federal Commission that has been brought in by Labour and supported by the Liberals.

25 Nov 2022

Total posts 4

I know I have. Here is the link for anyone wanting to submit a complaint: http://report.nacc.gov.au

It really concerns me that Turkish Airlines seems to want to keep the same number of 49 business class seats in the 777 and rely on a what would still be a 2-3-2 layout, even if every seat is a private suite with direct aisle access, instead of just losing 7 seats to drop to 42 suites in a standard 1-2-1 layout. If TK could come up with something as good as or better than the Qsuite in 1-2-1 that would be amazing, but for the sake of a maximum of 7 more business class fares per flight they want to keep squashing passengers in?

22 Jan 2018

Total posts 102

Much needed. The current TK J class is dismal 

20 Jul 2023

Total posts 11

Have you actually flown it? Nothing wrong with the product and service wise beyond what qantas are capable of delivering

Qantas - Qantas Frequent Flyer

26 Oct 2017

Total posts 89

Sorry never been a fan of the claustrophobic, clutter look cabins as in the doubled photo above. Much prefer the open spacious airy feel of original business class cabins with true flat seats. These wannabe first class cabins with pigeon holes for feet, I find, don't really serve the privacy they're spriuked to have, but rather the ability to squeeze more Business class passengers into a cabin space. Don't sleep as well in these cabins either is my experience. Just my opinion for what it's worth. Anyone else feel the same ?

 

Aegean Airlines - Miles & Bonus

16 Jul 2019

Total posts 26

The Apex Suite used by JAL, Gulf, Oman and Korean is actually very popular. It's one seat less across from BA's 2-4-2 configuration on the 777, so no comparison warranted. It also has more storage and shelf space than BA's old Club World. 

I'd welcome such a seat as it's also better for tall passengers. 


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